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ok, so the movie was good but i didn't like it. i can't really explain it. i think i just plain don't like comic book movies anymore. so keeping that in mind, what i point out what i don't like in the movie are probably minor things that peeve me and only me so when you watch it it'll probably be pretty cool.
for one, i thought the music was sorta jarring and didn't fit in at times.
i didn't like seeing niteowl's thrusting, naked ass for a good 10 minutes. much less on the big fucking screen. -_-;; i hadn't realized it was an important scene in the graphic novel.
they gave niteowl and silk spectre II more of a backbone than in the comic book. in the comic book- while they could take care of themselves, they were way more badass in the movie. i wonder what alan moore would think about that, given that he purposely made dan look goofy and not really helpful and laurie and nagging not so super heroine. i think thats missing the point, but perhaps it made them more human. especially when dan starts beating the shit out of ozymandias. i mean, in the comics after ozy blew up new york and all with his giant squid, dan seemed pretty okay with it then proceeded to do the deed with laurie on ozy's pool. so maybe its better to give dan a backbone finally.
though i must say, i really liked how they did the comedian. i wasn't too interested in him in the comic so thats a feat. the actor they got for him did a great job.
speaking of actors, i think all of them did a great job of their respective roles for the movie. dan seemed inept at times, laurie nagged but it didn't bother me as much. dr. manhatten seemed very soft spoken and had more emotion than i thought he would have had than in the comic, but thats a little thing. the comedian was a crude monster but in the end the most human, and rorschach was rorschach. the actor that did him was good. had the look down, 'cept for the curly hair. but the face, the mannerisms- its all there.
i felt the movie spelled itself out too easily. it was easy to tell laurie's dad was the comedian right off the bat for me. but maybe thats cause i read the comic and OF COURSE it'll be easier to get cause i've read it plus they can only cram so much into 3 hours.
and thats another thing- 3 CUNT FUCKING HOURS. SRSLY. no way i'm sticking around for that again. that means i can't watch this whole movie ever unless i plan on spending a whole afternoon in front of my tv.
i never agreed with the movie costumes and i still don't.
bubastis only shows up to die, it woulda been cool to see that weird cat with ozy all the time like in the comics.
but see, what i'm doing is nitpicking. i don't hate the movie, i actually think its pretty good at summing the watchmen up in as short as time possible as it can. its an incredible feat so i applaud them for that. however, i feel that ONLY watchmen fans or comic book fans will like it, and the mainstream audience won't. its a rated R superhero film, after all. and i wouldn't really have counted watchmen as a genuine superhero film, more of a dark, satirical take on the whole super hero genre. so the watchmen was pretty much showing all your herohs are no better than you if not worse because they have your problems PLUS they have crazy gadgets and training and, in jon's case, super powers. and look how worse the world became. the action is fast and gritty so that's delightful. you can totally tell the guys that did sin city and 300 did this movie, so they would make it super stylized and action packed with stunning camera effects.
so the movie is good all on its own, lets keep it as that. to me, the watchmen was a practical joke gone wrong. as i've stated, alan moore hated american super heroes. so he created the watchmen as a big 'FUCK YOU' to all the fans, only to find that they gobble it up and love it and beg for more. i find that as the equivalent as egging someones house and when you come over to rub it in their face the next day, they're overjoyed and beg you to do it again. the wrong response entirely.
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whyd Alan Moore hate American super heroes?
Im not that mutch of a comic fan though, only because Im very picky...and the fact that super hero comics just keep being redone...over...and....over! Its like Marvel and DC just hired a bunch of FanFiction writters and said "okay do what ever the fuck you want to are characters we dont give a shit" but I do love Sin City and the stuff Vasquez has done
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thanks for the invite pfft
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american comics compared to british comics do seem goofy. they're more lighthearted and action packed and didn't rely on story as much as british comics. and super heroes are abundant. alan moore didn't like super heroes cause he thought they were silly things that were just more american garbage. so he wrote a graphic novel to show what he thought of them; as useless, inept losers who HAD to dress up silly and argued more amongst each other than ever really accomplishing anything.
alan moore is known for being quite creepy and totally against the grain, lol. i don't agree with everything he says- i mean i love super heroes. they're like my modern myths- but i think i get where he's coming from. american comics never did so well as comics in britain did, and he thought it was because american comics never tried to be serious literature. the only costumed superhero he's ever done was V for Vendetta. but then again, V was about a terrorist. i think he's working on another league of extraordinary gentlemen now, and thats alot of fun to read actually.
also, alan moore doesn't make any money off his movies because he believes hollywood ruins them so he takes himself off the contract when the movie starts being made. but that's a whole 'nother story...
lol sorry if thats alot.
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and I love stuff thats over the top, but still has small suttle details in it that give it an odd relism, like FLCL...its the weirdest crazyst shit Iv ever seen, but the relationships between the charactors were so intersting, like how you could infur that Mamimi actully did have mental problams, maby Bi-polar manic depression, and posably a sexual abuse victom as a kid, witch is why she clings to Naota and only molests him because she just repeating the abuse she suffered or is just trying to replace his brother...who most likely only pitied her....Im sorry....I rant to mutch XD
I didnt know he maid V for Vendetta...I love how you never saw his face ^^
Id love to hear about it
no, its all good
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He doesn't care about the industry, I just wish he would die a sad, lonely death and leave us his legacy of stories already. Like, everytime I read that fools name in some news thing he's whining or bitching or being a bastard. Such disrepect yo. I would love to spit in his face, and then tell him congrats on a great career.
Did he think nobody else would have ever written a satire on costumed hero's? Eat a dick Alan, eat a fat, black dick.
The movie was good, it had to go in it's own direction, and I think some of the satire had to be passed from comic hero's to movie hero's. The rubber Ozy costume and mask that brought back batman and robin memories for example, and the sometimes overly choreographed action scenes. It kept very solidly with the book keeping everything that needed to be there, and getting rid of all the "fluff" stories in the novel. Honestly, looking back, all that side-story shit was such a distraction from the main story. It was just well-written fluff.
Like...the gory action and the sex I didn't really mind, it totally humanizes the characters that much more, and that's the point. These are people who decided to fight crime without a system, and if the bad guys need to die, or at least get their elbows pushed out the wrong way, then so be it. Everyone dies, they're just making sure it's in the name of justice? I think this was Rorschach's big thing, and once Ozy had basically made world peace, he was ready to die, there was nothing left for him. Him telling the world the big secret was just the best reason for Manhattan to kill him right then. He already knew he left that journal at pioneer press, but he wanted to die.
I'm glad they did the whole "Mr. Manhattan did it" deal instead of the giant squid. That would have tossed the average moviegoer into hysteria.
Like I was saying with the gore and sex though, I think just like watchmen kind of brought in alot of taboo subjects to the comic world, Zack made sure to not hold back and not avoid any taboo with the movie.
Like, in 300 there was no male nudity, even though they're naked the entire book, but in watchmen, if you just show waist up shots of Dr.M for the whole movie or put an all-powerful man in a thong or pants, you're pandering to society and leaving them alone in this fucked up bubble reality we've made for ourselves. But instead, the movie hits hard with everything: language, gory violence, sex scenes, male nudity, you have the rape situation that wasn't played down. All of that in a SUPER HERO movie. That's right world, take your "comic books are for geeks" attitude and shove it.
I came out of the theatre with a "it was good, book was better" type mood, saw it in Imax and was blown away by picture and sound quality. I think the soundtrack was fine, I don't know why you found it jarring. If it was gonna be all instrumentals after using smashing pumpkins in the trailer, I would have been disappointed. Plus all the songs were 80's songs to keep the viewer in that time period instead of zoning out and thinking it was more post modern.
The length was fine, too, I don't know what you expected. It was pretty much packed the whole time with story, if you left for the bathroom you probably missed something. What were they gonna do, break it up into a trilogy? Heeeeellll no.
I just got back from seeing the movie a second time, and it was even better. That sex scene seemed way shorter, I could step back from the awe/shock value and see the direction of the movie better, and it is nearly flawless considering the source material, and in some ways better.
I hope this movie is a wake-up call to the average american. Stop acting like pussies. Half the world has a dick, and it's not some ugly, fucked up, made up thing to be hidden. Sex and relationships, these are our first building blocks, and without them we wouldn't be celebrating any of our unnecessary technological advancements. Stop living the world in tunnel vision, and realize you're the only person setting the boundaries around you, and your opinions don't change the natural way of things. Stop making every subject that makes you think or feel so taboo, so unmentionable, so otherworldly, because it's not. These things are everyday, and we live for them, not around them. Opinions about stupid shit is why there's so much war in the world, people who think some book is law, or lighter skin means less humanity. People need to get over themselves and get with reality.
Anyone who thought the movie was boring can keep watching spider man 3 and shit, I'm there with mr. Snyder. Keep that shit real as possible, don't let people forget the world their living in, and don't pander to their comfort zones just so they can sleep sound at night.
I totally agree with you on a lot of parts. Sometimes the music was well timed and terrific; others, it was God awful. The worst was Hallelujah for their like FIFTH SEX SCENE. Goddamn. I preferred the awkward sex. It was more natural than the scene where they're doing in Archimedes because that was like "omg classic sex scene" which was about as useful to the movie as the part with the slow motion naked sixteen-year-old in 300. No wonder the movie was three hours long, we had to stare at Dan's bare ass for like fifteen minutes.
But still I enjoyed it. It wasn't as great as I was hoping for, but this director has tended to disappoint me. It did have the same dark humor as Alan Moore would have, though I think it missed the point. I think instead of saying "superheroes suck" it was trying to say "making superhero decisions is not easy". And that superheroes are human too. That's why Moore's characters are so fantastic, they're human. I walked out of the movie not feeling very good, and that's exactly how it should have been.
So... I liked it, but I would have done it differently.
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